Toys R Us

First of all, listen to the 911 call (2.4 MB mp3) about the dual shooting at a Toys R Us store in Palm Desert, California last Friday. The tape is 2:39 long, and the authorities arrive at the very end. Honestly, that’s not half bad. Considering all of the problems the dispatcher had getting the address and name of the location, I was surprised they were able to respond that quickly.

It’s good that the two guys shot each other. If one or both of them would have decided to shoot others, that would have been a long two and a half minutes.

The women each of the two dead guys were with started fighting about something. One guy pulled a gun, the other did the same, and a gun fight erupted. This sounds a bit like the “streets will run red with blood” cries about concealed weapon permits, but some of the details derail that: DA’s Office: Men Killed at Toys ‘R’ Us Had Criminal Records

The details are equally mind-boggling:

At least one of the two men who died in a shootout inside a crowded Palm Desert Toys “R” Us store on Black Friday is believed to be a gang member, Riverside County District Attorney Rod Pacheco said Tuesday, and both had criminal records.

Pacheco said 28-year-old Juan Meza of Cathedral City sported a tattoo of “MVM,” indicating that he belonged to a Mecca-area gang.

Who would have guessed it. Next thing you know, they’re going to be saying this guy had a history of gun-related convictions and that maybe they weren’t just some upstanding, law-abiding citizens who “just snapped” and went all OK Corral in the toy store.


According to court records, Meza pleaded guilty in March to being a felon in possession of a firearm. He pleaded guilty to the same charge in November 2007.

In September 2005, Meza pleaded guilty to assault with a weapon, and in 2002, he pleaded to possessing a controlled substance for sale while armed, according to court records.

Records show that Moreno had a criminal record spanning back to 1998, when he pleaded guilty to inflicting corporal injury on a spouse. As part of the plea deal, charges of assault with a deadly weapon, criminal threats and willfully harming a child were dismissed.

Something tells me that he wasn’t a lawful gun owner.

Hmmm: The two men involved in the shooting at Toys R Us in Palm Desert on Friday did not have licenses to carry concealed weapons, according to police officials.

Remember, California is a may issue state with a strong tendency towards “maybe not.” Yet here we are with two guys with criminal backgrounds including assault and weapon charges shooting it out in a store. Remember this when the Brady Bunch uses this as an example of why more gun control is needed.

3 thoughts on “Toys R Us”

  1. No surprises here. What were those FBI statistics; something like 90% of violent criminals had prior convictions and something approaching 80% of the victims as well? Case in point.

  2. Wow, Hispanics?? Suspected gang connection?? Prison records?? Who’d a thunk it…

    And I’ll bet you that they weren’t carrying LEGALLY obtained guns either…

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