October 20th, 2009
Richard Mann is doing research for an article on the suitability of the .22 LR for personal protection. The article will appear in an upcoming issue of the National Rifle Association’s Shooting Illustrated magazine. This survey is part of that research.
Four questions and takes just a minute to complete.
UPDATE: Due to overwhelming response thanks to several of my fellow gun bloggers being kind enough to link, we’ve got plenty of feedback and I’m pulling the survey. Thanks to all who participated, and the comments section here and at the linking sites includes a lot of great discussion.
Here’s another pole:
Admiral Robert E. Peary's crew, pictured here in the vicinity of the North Pole, included Inuits Ooqeah, Ootah, Egingwah, and Seeglo and fellow American Matthew Henson. NGS photo by Robert E Peary
Thanks again.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
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October 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
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October 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Didn’t even do the first question.
Choices did not include “D- A pistol chambered in an adequate caliber.”
This is a classic case of a pollster deliberately weighting a poll. Screw him and the horse he rode in on. We get enough of this push-poll crap from the leftards.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Choices did not include “D- A pistol chambered in an adequate caliber.”
So you are saying that you would rather go unarmed than carry something you did not consider to be an “adequate” caliber?
October 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Wow. Tough crowd.
Personally, I think it’s a very valid questionnaire. I carry, at times, a .380 which I deem to be too weak to be an effective ’stopping’ round. However, the P3AT in my pocket beats the 10mm that had to stay at home because my wardrobe didn’t allow for it.
With my Ruger Mark III 22/45, I think I could put enough .22lr into a small enough space as quickly as I could pull the trigger to get a response from my target. Which would be better than yelling profanities at my attacker, but less desirable than hitting them with a few 10mm’s or .45ACPs.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I am not the poll-writer, but something tells me that was the point.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
My wife keeps a Mark2 22 LR pistol by the bed, I’d rather she kept something bigger but she likes it and is comfortable with it. I have no doubt that she can hit a small target with it. So a 22lr in the eye or a .45ACP in the wall? .22 for the win! The human heart is only a few inches deep in the chest. A 22 may not stop a charging rhino, cape buffalo or a crack head in their tracks, but it will kill a human sized animal if you can hit a vital organ.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
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October 21st, 2009 at 8:46 am
[...] Help for a friend Posted on October 21, 2009 by Caleb Murdoc of Gunpundit is running a poll as a favor for Richard Mann. Richard is working on an article about .22 LR pistols for personal defense, and the poll is being used to mine data for the article. Head over to GunPundit and take the poll. [...]
October 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
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October 21st, 2009 at 9:08 am
First, thanks for linking to the poll on GunPundit.
Second, thanks to all that have completed and will complete the survey – honestly.
Third, I especially appreciate the comments. Keep ‘em coming. Those about misfires with .22 LR ammunition are very valid concerns.
Finally, for those that did not like the “push poll” nature of the survey, that think my conclusions are forgone or would like additional background information, http://www.ramworks.net/blog/?p=154
October 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
Hmmm. My own comment from last night doesn’t seem to have posted.
In a nutshell: This clearly doesn’t seem to be a general “what do you prefer for self-defense” poll. This appears slanted to gauge peoples’ views/opinions/feelings on the .22 for defense by rating it against other lightweight options.
If he asked .22, 9mm, .40, or .45 for self-defense, how much useful feedback would he have received for his article on .22?
Again, I don’t know any details about exactly how the results are going to be used, but just answer honestly using the options given.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:59 am
It depends what you are defending against. Against a bear I would rather have the pepper-spray. Against a person, probably the .22.
As for home defense, I picked the quard dog first since my guns don’t start barking when somebody breaks in. Once he starts I can arm myself (even if it is with a club in this scenario) while the wife calls the police.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I’m in Germany. I’d be happy if I were allowed to carry even a .22lr.
A gun in .22lr beats having no gun or having to rely on less adequate defensive tools, such as OC or tasers.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Obviously, when in need, any gun is better than no gun. For me, when choosing a gun, the one that will produce the biggest diameter hole is best—bigger hole, will bleed out faster.
The question stopped me. “Hit?” With what? I assumed it meant with a bullet so the obvious answer is as many times as you can.
Definitely a slanted poll, but perhaps for a reason.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
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October 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Still a false choice.
I have bigger pistols than .22 lrs. I use them for self defense. I was carrying them for self defense before we had “shall isssue” permits, and if it becomes illegal to carry them again, I’ll still be carrying.
Yes, a .22 is better than nothing. So is a pointed stick.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Question 3, choosing betweeen 22LR, 25ACP, 32ACP, or a dog that bites, I picked 22LR because I have them. Plenty of them. And I can get more if needed. The other three – not so much…
October 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I found myself unable to answer the last question properly. I most agreed with option D, hitting the right spot, fast and often. However, I also think you should hit it with the most powerful round you can. A vote for D can very easily be slanted to suggest .22LR is the BEST self defense caliber, as it can be used to hit faster. Not a conclusion I agree with, so I voted for plain old “hitting the right spot.”
October 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
This survey is ridiculous. They should add question 5:
Would you rather:
A) sell all guns other than your .22
B) die in a fire
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 am
home: 12ga pump
elsewhere: whatever is possible. Preferably compact 45acp, or 38spl, or 380acp, or 32acp, or 22lr, or 22short, or 25acp…., or a khyber knife, an asp baton, chair, bottle, ball point pen, whatever. I’ll avoid it if i can, run away if i can, but otherwise i’ll use whatever i have to: i’m planning to go home, intact.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:46 am
Anyone that claims that a 22lr is not a good self defense round is welcome to stand 50′ feet in front of me armed with his self defense handgun of choice, and we can trade shots, i go first. I can shoot the piss out of 1″ circles at 50′ all day long with my 22/45.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Ron Paul in ‘12!
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Rignerd:
Same here. My wife doesn’t have the strength in her hands to rack the slide on my 9mm. Nor can she pull the trigger of any double action revolver and she has to work hard to cock the hammer of any single action revolver. So she gets the Ruger Mark III. She can hit anything she can see with it. A bit of lead is better then 911 alone.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:31 am
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March 16th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I don’t know about everybody else. But I don’t see anyone continuing an attack after a few shots to the face from a BB gun let alone a .22s/lr/wmr or a centerfire rd. Something to think about.