Oregon Police or US Army?

Images from the search for David Anthony Durham, the suspect in the shooting of a police officer last weekend:

A member of the Oregon State Police SWAT team searches a wooded area in the Bayshore community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore

A member of the Oregon State Police SWAT team searches a wooded area in the Bayshore community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore

A member of the Oregon State Police SWAT team searches near a home in the Bayshore community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore

A member of the Oregon State Police SWAT team searches near a home in the Bayshore community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore

Oregon State Police SWAT team members search a clearing in the Bayview community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore. Police are searching for 43-year-old David Anthony Durham suspected of shooting and critically wounding an officer on the Oregon coast. The gunman fled into the wilderness surrounding Waldport's peninsula, about five miles from Siuslaw National Forest. The search for him entered its third night early Wednesday as 25-member SWAT teams armed with assault rifles searched the area.

Oregon State Police SWAT team members search a clearing in the Bayview community Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2011, in Waldport , Ore. Police are searching for 43-year-old David Anthony Durham suspected of shooting and critically wounding an officer on the Oregon coast. The gunman fled into the wilderness surrounding Waldport's peninsula, about five miles from Siuslaw National Forest. The search for him entered its third night early Wednesday as 25-member SWAT teams armed with assault rifles searched the area.

One of the very few times the media uses the term “assault rifles” and it’s actually correct.

That is some serious tactical gear and weaponry. More photos at MilitaryPhotos.net. More here.

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  • [...] at GunPundit, some photos of Oregon State Police SWAT personnel searching for a suspected cop [...]

  • thebronze says:

    They definitely LOOK the part!

  • JD says:

    Okay, this SWAT crap is starting to get friggin ridiculous!

    • Jonathan says:

      if you think so why dont you do there job and butt naked and see how safe you feel when you know someone will be pionting a barrel down your sector

  • Nadnerbus says:

    Did you ever read, I think it was Generation Kill, or maybe it was in The March Up, where they mention something about a unit of reserve or guard soldiers (Marines?) that were mostly cops in their civilian life, and how they were the most indiscriminate with their fire, and just generally tactically unsound? I need to go find whatever it is I am remembering, cause these guys really look like they want to be in the Big-Time. Dump pouches and everything. For when they rattle off six magazines at this guy I guess.

    I dunno. I can’t do their job so I guess I should keep it to myself, but this thing where the police are getting more and more military bothers me. The military is there to provide maximum shock and devastation to the enemy. When our police start dressing like them, it just sends the wrong message.

  • JMosesB says:

    Yes Nadnerbus, you should keep it to yourself. When paranoid dopers stop shooting the cops with rifles, they’ll stop making you scared with their equipment. They don’t dress that way for fun, they’re hunting an armed madman who is an avid outdoorsman that already shot the crap out of one cop because he stopped him for speeding.

    And remember, Generation Kill was an HBO production and they’re never biased….

    • Murdoc says:

      Yes Nadnerbus, you should keep it to yourself.
      Thanks for helping moderate my site. I really appreciate it.

      When paranoid dopers stop shooting the cops with rifles, they’ll stop making you scared with their equipment.
      Who said anything about “scared”?

    • Nadnerbus says:

      I’m not shedding any tears for the low-life these guys are after. And I’m not necessarily criticizing the officers depicted here. They have a very dangerous job, and I don’t begrudge them the obvious right to protect themselves as much as they can. They are probably great guys and wonderful human beings, etc.

      Squidpuppy put it much more eloquently than I can. I am not fond of the direction that this country is going in the relationship between citizen and those we elect and appoint to defend and protect the American Way Of Life (for lack of a better term). It is probably the fault of the electorate, though, for demanding impossible levels of security from those we task with that job.

      As far as “They don’t dress that way for fun[...],” Yeah probably not. But SWAT is sexy, and I guarantee you that many of the people in that line of work do think it is “cool” and kinda fun to be the bad ass and all taced out. I worry a bit that that kind of appeal might draw the wrong type of person into law enforcement, for the wrong reasons.

      Also, I was thinking of “Generation Kill” the book, not the mini series. I’ve never seen that. But then the book was written by a Rolling Stones writer, so it’s probably all lies too.

  • Squidpuppy says:

    I think most actual SWAT teams are well trained; it’s rank & file officers who aren’t. And it’s not necessarily their fault. Many departments don’t have adequate training policies, staff, funding, or time; it’s a crying shame. I’ve seen police on the range doing stuff my mother would yell at them for, and take away their toys. I’ve seen federal offices who can’t put holes in paper at 5 yards and don’t know the meaning of trigger discipline or firearm control; say nothing about range safety.

    As for the militarization of the police; it’s a tricky question. Would I rather see well equipped & armed police in civilian areas, or the military? I’m skittish about having the military tromping around; at least with the police there’s a bit more recourse to legal accountability (yeah, right, even so…) and civilian over-sight. But militarization of the police is pretty much bad too. I’m not sure in this day and age there’s anything we can do about it unless…

    … we’re willing to accept less safety in our daily lives. This is the whole thing about terrorism on our shores, or extreme criminal activity. If we, as a society, were to suck it up and not be such bleating sheep, if we were to say, okay: things can get dangerous and I might get hurt, but I’m not willing to trade off security for freedom – then we could tone down our current authority / security profiles. I don’t think that’s going to happen though; too many scaredy-cats.

  • Bram says:

    Better Cammo than the Army.

    All the SWAT guys I’ve met are former military.

  • Donk says:

    So I thought I’d share a couple things and maybe shed some light on some of the issues mentioned:

    First, the multicam on the uniforms is not there to make them look like the military. It’s there because the entire team needs 1 uniform which will serve the team well in whatever mission they’re doing. The team does a ton of high risk search warrants for the state, as well as smaller counties and cities who do not have a team with the training or equipment needed for those warrants. In the summer, the same team executes high risk take downs of marijuana grows in remote wooded areas all over the state. The multicam uniforms and vest carriers work well for both entry and snipers to wear in whatever mission they’re involved in. Wanting to look more “military” wasn’t part of the objectives when looking at the multicam.

    Also, the gear the members are issued needs to be carried with them on their person, and there is A LOT of it. Some guys carry dump pouches, some guys don’t, but I can assure you they are not there with the expectation or hope of going through a bunch of mags spraying down the area. In all honesty, on an operation, if a member has a dump pouch its usually got extra gear (hearing protection, flex cuffs, etc) or a sandwich and a Gatorade (seriously!).

    This team takes it’s missions and training very seriously. To be a part of it you have to have a desire to go after the worst the state has to offer. You have to be willing to devote one week a month to training. Members are often gone from home and families several months out of the year between missions and training. The dedication level it takes to be on this team usually weeds out immediately those who are there for the wrong reasons.

    Just a few thoughts, thanks for listening!

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