Police are investigating four separate robberies of pizza-delivery drivers since Tuesday, with the latest hold-ups coming within an hour of each other Thursday in the same two-block area, authorities said.
No CCW in Illinois, of course.
UPDATE: Meanwhile, in Iowa, pizza guys get to fight back. And sometimes get fired for it.
Well, despite losing his job for defending his own life, the pizza guy lives on while the loser who tried to rob him will be sentenced, along with his co-conspirator girlfriend, in December.
- Why aren’t all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons and asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?
- Where are the Dixie Chicks, and Sean Penn in his rescue boat?
- Why isn’t the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn’t solved the problem?
- Where are all the FEMA trucks and trailers?
- Why isn’t the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago?
- When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines?
- Where are all the 24/7 lurid news tales of cannibalism and unnecessary drownings?
- Why did Iowans evacuate so prematurely; why are they not holed up in deathtrap sports centers?
Read all of them at KDT’s.
I think it’s only fair to point out that, for all we know, Sean Penn WAS there with his rescue boat. We can’t rule out the possibility that it sank again but he didn’t get out this time and he’s at the bottom of the river.
Regardless, Iowa seems to be getting by fine without him.
What do we think of this:
One resident, however, grew angry when he was not allowed to pass a checkpoint Monday, according to a news release from the Cedar Rapids Police Department.
After being denied re-entry to a flooded neighborhood, Rick Blazek, 53, returned to his vehicle as a state trooper used his police vehicle to block the checkpoint, according to the news release.
“Blazek drove his vehicle toward the state trooper and struck the state trooper three times with his vehicle,” the release said.
Police told Blazek to get out of his vehicle, and when he refused, “the driver’s window was broken out because the doors were locked and Blazek was removed from his vehicle,” according to the release.
The trooper was not injured. Blazek, who was arrested and charged with assault on a peace officer with a deadly weapon, could not be immediately reached for comment.
Account from CNN.
I don’t have any problem with someone being arrested for trying to drive their vehicle into a police officer. But the police weren’t allowing him to return to his property, and I’m not so sure about that.
I don’t think you can rightfully be forced to evacuate, and I would side with the citizen every time if police were trying to forcibly remove him from his property without charges. But are they obligated to let someone back in once they’ve left?
UPDATE: Discussion at Sebastian’s.
UPDATE 2: Higher-res image added. Click for better look. Found at boston.com.
James William Spiers III, first mentioned here for using a gun to defend himself from a premeditated ambush, has been fired by Pizza Hut now that media attention has died down. He violated company policy by carrying a hand gun. Good thing, too.
Here’s a letter to the editor on the subject:
I am writing in response to the article in the April 19 paper about the Pizza Hut delivery driver who was victim of a robbery attempt. I am specifically concerned with the comments made by state Sen. Brad Zaun calling for a boycott of Pizza Hut.
While not impugning the integrity of this specific delivery person, I don’t want armed individuals coming to my door when they make a delivery, whether for Pizza Hut or any other company. I would rather have Zaun working to eliminate the situations that may lead a delivery driver to feel the need to carry a weapon.
I think we would all be better served if Zaun devoted his energies to solving problems rather than suggesting a boycott of a legitimate business.
Again, like Dave Musgrove in his Russian Roulette column, we get a bunch of “there must be something better than letting citizens defend themselves,” which is ridiculous on it’s face. Then no specific examples of this wonderful “something” are forthcoming.
Incidentally, the decision to wait until the spotlight passed on just shows how cowardly these guys are. Can’t really, blame them, of course. If I ran a company that fired a guy for violating a policy that put his life in danger, I wouldn’t want people to know about it, either.
- ‘Russian Roulette’
- More on the latest Pizzza Hut guy in trouble for defending himself
- Don’t ‘F’ with the Pizza Guy
UPDATE: Lots of comments at Say Uncle’s.
Dave Musgrove at Pajamas Media writes about Gun Control at Pizza Hut says he might be “almost as wary of the delivery guy as I am of the alleged assailant” if delivery guys were allowed to carry guns. He then tells the story of an acquaintance’s twin brother who was a sheriff’s deputy shot by a hostage-taker:
My point is that despite whatever an individual’s depth of experience and proficiency with firearms, there comes a point at which countering guns with guns becomes little more than Russian Roulette. I’ve got to think there are better public safety options than that.
This is just bizarre. Taken at face value, the story and the conclusion point to taking guns away from sheriff’s deputies, no? That’s utterly ridiculous, but that’s what his story tells us.
I’m sure that’s not what he means, of course. He means that because he knows of a situation where a trained person with a gun lost the fight, carrying a gun doesn’t guarantee safety.
Taken to that point, I don’t disagree. I don’t know any gun owners or pro-CCW types who would.
But to call using a gun to defend yourself against someone else with a gun “little more than Russian Roulette” is, honestly, pretty stupid. And you’ll notice that though he says “I’ve got to think there are better public safety options than that,” he doesn’t list a single one.
The current situation is Russian Roulette, but only the criminals have guns and they can pull the trigger as many times as they want. Oh, and the gun isn’t pointed at their own head but at the pizza delivery drivers.
Here’s something from the comments:
If one delivery person is carrying as allowed by company policy and kills someone in error, that’s a multi-zillion dollar lawsuit.
I think that’s right, and probably a huge part, of the reason for the policy. But isn’t Pizza Hut also on the hook for employees robbed, injured, or killed because they had no means of defense?
For the record, I certainly think that Pizza Hut has the right to set its own company policies. They also have the right to get some bad PR because their policies seem to be a bit out of touch. (via Instapundit.)
UPDATE: Brillianter has more. Go read.
As noted a few days back, Pizza Hut delivery driver James Spiers has been suspended during the investigation into his violating company policy by carrying a gun while workiing. He used the gun to defend himself during an armed ambush and robbery.
Vonnie Walbert, vice president of human resources at Pizza Hut’s corporate offices in Dallas, said last week that employees are not allowed to carry guns “because we believe that that is the safest for everybody.”
Especially criminals who set up ambushes in order to rob pizza guys at gun point. Sure would hate for those types of people to be put into an unsafe situation. What if they were injured while holding a gun to the head of the pizza guy they’re robbing?
Via Instapundit, who writes
Good thing he didn’t listen or he might be being carried by six instead of subjected to mealy-mouthed HR flackery from one.
A state senator said he would stop buying Pizza Hut products if the pizza chain fires a Des Moines delivery man who shot a teen who tried to rob him at gunpoint.
Sen. Brad Zaun, a Republican from Urbandale, said from what he’s read, he understands that James William Spiers is a single father raising a daughter, and had the legal right to carry a weapon.
A 19-year-old man and an 18-year-old woman ordered the pizza and, when the pizza guy arrived, the man put a gun to his head and robbed him. The pizza guy managed to get the man’s gun away from him, then pulled his own gun and shot him.
Restaurant officials have suspended the Pizza Hut driver, James William Spiers, while the case is under investigation. Polk County officials today confirmed that Spiers holds a valid gun permit, which was renewed in November.
As usual, the pizza guy is in trouble for defending himself while getting robbed:
Vonnie Walbert, vice president of human resources at Pizza Hut, said:
“We have policy against carrying weapons. We prohibit employees from carrying guns because we believe that that is the safest for everybody.”
Walbert said Pizza Hut trains employees to report such incidences to police.
Spiers called police after the wounded suspect fled.
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