Michigan Constitutional Carry

Ruger LC9sHouse Bills 4772 – 4778 : Constitutional Carry Comes To Michigan

State Representative Cindy Gamrat (R- District 80) yesterday introduced Michigan HB 4778. HB 4778 will allow for the existing pistol registration to stay in place but allow broad exemptions.

In short, Michigan residents 21 and over who are permitted to own firearms would be able to carry concealed without a CPL. The existing CPL system would remain in place for those who wanted to get one for reciprocity purposes.

This is, in principle, a Good Thing.

Noted in the linked article:

One thing it does lack however is any change to carry on school grounds.

That is and should be a separate issue.

Trying to get Open Carry out of Kroger Grocery

Lansing, Michigan: Group calls for open-carry ban at Frandor Kroger

Eight women, including East Lansing resident Linda Brundage, asked shoppers to shop elsewhere until Kroger prohibits customers from openly carrying guns. Protesters were members of the nationwide Moms Demand Action For Gun Sense in America. Brundage heads the group’s mid-Michigan chapter.

Kroger’s 124 stores and 64 gas stations in Michigan will continue following state law, which does not prohibit open-carry of guns, said Ken McCLure, spokesman for Kroger’s Michigan division. McClure said lawmakers, not retailers, should decide the issue.

Kroger is based in Cincinnati, Ohio.

While looking around, Murdoc noticed this rant from someone named Elisabeth Parker: Kroger Open Carry Gun Nuts Fail To Prevent Yet Another Shooting

Once again, Kroger’s merry band of open carry gun nuts failed to prevent a shooting, this time on Friday at a Kroger in Gwinnett County, Georgia.

Gun nuts argue it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. But where are all those open carry heroes when Kroger needs them?

Do we think Ms. Parker really believes that open carry proponents are somehow responsible to prevent criminals from committing crimes? If only there were a government agency that was tasked with controlling and preventing crime. We could give them badges and guns and very liberal leeway to fight crime.

If Ms. Parker wants a successful criminal shooting to mean the end of open carry in Kroger’s, she also needs it to mean the end of the police. You know, the ones who are actually supposed to prevent crime and protect the citizenry.

But we know she doesn’t mean that.

UPDATE: Also see Grocery Shopping on GunProPlus.

Wolf Hunting Opponents Resorting to Lawsuits over Petition Collectors

Wolf hunt opponents challenging Michigan law on collecting signatures for ballot questions

LANSING – Animal rights groups opposed to the law authorizing wolf hunting in Michigan have filed a federal lawsuit challenging the state’s restrictions on how signatures must be collected for ballot questions.

The lawsuit, filed electronically on Sunday by a coalition of groups including Keep Michigan Wolves Protected, asks a federal judge to rule that Michigan’s requirement that petition circulators be Michigan residents is an unconstitutional restriction on First Amendment rights…

State law requires each page of a ballot proposal petition be signed by a witness, who must be qualified to vote in Michigan.

Restrictions to keep out-of-staters from doing too much to influence in-state politics without sufficient support from residents seems reasonable to Murdoc. No one’s saying the out-of-staters can’t speak their mind or contribute to the cause. But Michigan politics need to be based on Michigan residents’ efforts. Without enough Michigan work on it, why should Michigan residents have to give two cents to the personal opinion of someone from Florida?

I said no onions, dammit! [UPDATE]

Wrong burger orders lead to shot being fired at Grand Rapids McDonald’s

GRAND RAPIDS, MI — After receiving a series of incorrect burger orders, police say a Grand Rapids woman became verbally abusive and fired one pistol round into a McDonald’s.

The altercation took place around 3 a.m. Monday, Feb. 10, at the McDonald’s in the 400 block of 28th Street SE, according to Lt. John Bylsma.

She got a wrong burger in the drive-through and called to complain. They gave her a free burger, but when she went to get it, they got it wrong again. So she got into it with the employee.

Then, apparently, the passenger in the car shot at the building.

No one was hurt. They had her number from the call, so the police took her and the passenger into custody.

UPDATE: Grand Rapids woman to be arraigned in McDonald’s shooting:

Court records indicate Grand Rapids resident Shaneka Monique Torres, 29, is scheduled for video arraignment by Grand Rapids District Court Judge Kimberly A. Shaefer this afternoon.

Torres is charged with carrying a concealed weapon, discharge of a firearm in or at a building, and using a firearm for a felony, all stemming from an incident on Monday, Feb. 10, at a Grand Rapids-area McDonald’s restaurant.

Permit to Purchase in Michigan

Here is an update from the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners on the legislation to do away with the obsolete permit to purchase for handguns in the Wolverine State:

House Bill 5225, legislation that would eliminate the state handgun “permit-to-purchase” and registration requirements, is currently stalled in the Michigan Senate. The reason for this delay stems from opposition by the Michigan State Police and Governor Rick Snyder’s office asking the state Senate leadership to “hold” H.B. 5225.

In June, this package of bills passed in the Michigan House of Representatives by an overwhelming 74 to 36 vote. It has also passed in the Senate Judiciary Committee and now awaits consideration by the State Senate. All indications are that H.B. 5225 enjoys supermajority support in the Senate. There is no doubt that the state Senate will pass H.B. 5225 by a wide margin when they vote on it.

However, Michigan’s first-term Governor has now asked leaders in the Senate to hold this bill, delaying and preventing critical and final action on this important Second Amendment legislation. Because the Michigan Legislature has few remaining working days before the election, this stall tactic will almost guarantee the bill’s demise.

Murdoc has contacted his reps and Governor Snyder. Now we just wait and see.

Michigan Permit to Purchase

Michigan Senate Judiciary Committee to Consider Repeal of Permit to Purchase and Gun Registration on Wednesday

This Wednesday, July 18, the Michigan Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a special hearing on legislation to repeal Michigan’s “permit-to-purchase” and registration requirements for handguns. House Bill 5225, which seeks to replace the state handgun “permit-to-purchase” requirement with the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, has already passed in the state House of Representatives by an overwhelming 74 to 36 vote on June 13. Additionally, the Senate Judiciary Committee will hear the two companion bills to HB 5225, House Bill 5498 and House Bill 5499, both of which also passed the state House and were sent to the Senate last month.

HB 5225, sponsored by state Representative Paul Opsommer (R-93), would repeal the outdated and ineffective “permit-to-purchase” requirement. Under the current state process, gun buyers must apply with their local law enforcement agency and pass a written test before being authorized to buy a handgun. This “permit” is valid for only one gun and it expires after ten days. This process became obsolete when the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) took effect in 1998. Since that time, federal law has required a national criminal records check for the purchase of any firearm, from any gun dealer, in every state. The NRA has been working diligently to repeal the antiquated, costly and unnecessary “permit-to-purchase” obstacle for gun owners, and has coordinated with several state Representatives to produce the new language for HB 5225.

HB 5225 as amended would, if enacted:

  • Repeal the state requirement to seek police permission to purchase a firearm by traveling to a local police station and obtaining a permit to purchase.
  • Repeal the requirement for a law-abiding citizen to register a legally purchased and owned firearm with the government through the police.
  • Adopt the use of the federally-funded National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
  • Cut Michigan’s costs by using the federally-administered national instant background check system and eliminate wasted man-hours of tracking lawful gun owners in Michigan.
  • Default to the federal standard of prohibited persons and require a background check for each purchase.

Murdoc is optimistic that this is going to become law, but Michigan residents take a few minutes to contact your senators to make sure they know you care about this. Combined with the elimination of the “safety inspection” (registration) requirement after any pistol purchase, Michigan is finally on the right path for handgun ownership.

More on the Detroit PD “Gun Just Went Off” Case

A few days back GP noted a strange case in Detroit where an off-duty police officer’s gun just went off at a party when a woman hugged him from behind while dancing. Adaisha Miller, 24, was killed by the shot.

It sounded fishy at the time, and it’s not getting much less murky as “more information” comes out from various sources.

The police say Parrish’s gun, reportedly a .40 S&W M&P, was in a soft holster on his right hip. A lawyer for the Detroit Police Officer’s Association says it was an inside-the-waistband holster and covered by the officer’s shirt.

Shooting investigation looks at off-duty Detroit police officer’s holster

One expert said several questions need to be answered to know whether such an accident is possible.

David Balash, a former Michigan State Police firearms examiner, questioned whether the holster could pivot or whether Parrish was bending over, given that holstered guns typically point with the barrel toward the ground.

“It’s just an incredible angle that they’re asking you to believe,” Balash said. “If the muzzle of the firearm were initially in a downward position, it would be such a dramatic twisting and turning of a weapon.”

In response to those who’ve wondered how a killing shot could happen from a gun holstered at the waist, the Detroit PD have now stated that Miller was “dancing on her knees.”

The official said that explains how Miller was shot in the chest while dancing behind Officer Isaac Parrish during a fish fry early Sunday at his home on Archdale.

The official said the angle of the gunshot is possible because Miller was not standing and described it as some type of “exotic dance” where Miller, 24, was tugging at Parrish’s waist.

The Miller’s mother says that witnesses have told her that she and Parrish were “side by side and she got a birthday hug from Parrish when the gun went off.”

Though the police’s story sounds like it could be a bit fishy, the account of the side-by-side birthday hug doesn’t make any sense.

Miller’s mother says a doctor told her the bullet went through a lung and hit her heart.

Also worth noting is the fact that the police say that alcohol was not a factor despite the fact that Parrish was not given a breathalyzer or blood test at the time and that department police forbids carrying of firearms when BAC is above 0.02%.

Stun Guns in the Wolverine State

Somehow I missed this:

Michigan Court of Appeals Strikes Down Stun Gun Ban, Says Second Amendment Applies to Open Carry in Public

I think this is correct. But Murdoc is more interested in HOW they reached that decision, especially:

The Second Amendment applies not just to firearms but to other weapons as well. “[The state] argues that Heller is strictly a gun control case, but the broad nature of the language used in Heller’s definition of arms clearly covers more than just firearms.”

I just had this discussion a few days ago. The Second Amendment is a legal guarantee that citizens can keep and bear ARMS. Arms are a lot more than guns.

Via Say Uncle.