Cleveland Police Union to the US Constitution: DROP DEAD

Cleveland police union asks for suspension of ‘open carry’ in wake of Baton Rouge, ahead of RNC

Cleveland, Ohio (CNN) — The head of Cleveland’s largest police union is calling on Ohio Gov. John Kasich to temporarily restrict the state’s open carry gun laws during this week’s Republican National Convention following Sunday’s shooting in Louisiana that killed three officers and wounded at least three others.

Now, whatever you think of this idea and whether or not additional restrictions around the convention might be in order or if security needs to be stepped up or the National Guard called in or whatever, this bit here should scare the living daylights out of every American:

“I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point,” Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association, told CNN.

You lost me there, jackass.

The head of the Cleveland police union doesn’t care whether or not what he wants to do is constitutional. That means that Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association needs to be removed from office immediately.

He says those open carrying are going to be targeted for tougher inspections.

“I couldn’t care less if it’s legal or not.”

You known how you get people to hate cops, Mr. Loomis? You know how you get people to think about attacking cops? You know how you make people sympathize with those ambushing cops? By not caring about the Constitution, by not caring what’s legal, and by saying so openly.

Holy shit, Murdoc cannot believe that this idiot is saying this to the media.

Murdocs prediction is that his comments inspaire ten times as many open carriers as would have been there.

Oh, and it’s not those open carrying that he should be worried about.

Ohio Court of Appeals Holds ‘that the right to bear arms ensured by the Second Amendment does, in fact, extend to motor vehicles’

Eugene Volokh in the WaPo:

The view that the Second Amendment protects some sort of right to carry guns outside the home remains the minority view among post-Heller appellate courts, but it’s a substantial minority, and this decision adds to that minority.

Here is a bit from the decision noting that while both Heller and McDonald dealt specifically with guns in the home, their decisions clearly didn’t apply only to the home:

Though Heller and McDonald say that “‘the need for defense of self, family, and property is most acute’ in the home,” that language does not mean that the need for defense of self, family and property never arises out of the home. Moore, 702 F.3d at 935. In fact, by using the modifier “most” in front of “acute,” the court acknowledged the need for self-defense in places other than the home. As the Second Amendment primarily ensures the right of an individual to bear arms “in case of confrontation,” surely the contours of that right would extend to situations where an individual would need to act in self-defense outside the individual’s home. Heller, 554 U.S. at 592.

Moreover, because the court identified reasonable restrictions such as “carrying [] firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings,” the court clearly acknowledged that the scope of the Second Amendment reaches beyond the home. Heller, 554 U.S. at 626–627. Otherwise, such “restrictions” need not be identified or examined….

They also discuss the “keep” vs. “bear” aspect of the 2A. This is something that Murdoc brings up in conversation from time to time. If the 2A really meant citizens should be allowed to own guns in case they need them for service in a government militia, “keeping” them would be enough. Likewise for those who argue that guns should not be allowed outside the home and/or that they must be locked up, often separate from ammunition, sometimes disabled by trigger locks or dis-assembly. That might be “keeping,” but it sure isn’t “bearing.”

Remember, if you have a Gadsden flag bumper sticker you might be a domestic terrorist

Occupy activists plead guilty to conspiracy and weapons of mass destruction charges

Last week

three of the five Occupy activists arrested for attempting to blow up a commuter bridge in Ohio in May pled guilty to use of a weapon of mass destruction, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, and attempted use of an explosive device to destroy property used in interstate commerce.

Via Instapundit.

‘No noticeable difference’

Guns in bars cause no problems, local law officials say they have seen no real issues

Shockingly, there haven’t been dozens of drunken shoot-outs between Ohio bar-goers since the state began allowing those with concealed carry permits to carry guns into places where alcohol is served.

“We haven’t had any problems yet,” said Huron County sheriff’s Lt. Theresa Shean. “What I am truly finding is that people who come in for permits are responsible people, and they are very concerned in carrying out their rights in a responsible way.

“The people that should not have weapons, we’re not going to see those people come in and apply for a permit,” she said.

Note that she didn’t say “People that should not have weapons are not going to carry them.” She just said that they wouldn’t apply for a permit to carry them.

More on Cleveland Restrictions

Here’s a little more on the story about the Ohio Supreme Court ruling that the city of Cleveland’s gun restrictions violated state law.

Eugene Volokh writes:

Two of the seven Justices dissented, but I find it hard to understand their argument. They reasoned, quoting an earlier case, that “in order for … a conflict to arise, the state statute must positively permit what the ordinance prohibits, or vice versa, regardless of the extent of state regulation concerning the same object,” and concluded that there was no conflict warranting preemption because “the Cleveland ordinances do not conflict with R.C. 9.68, because they does not permit something that the statute forbids or vice versa.” But how could this be so?

Which demonstrates that judges matter. 28% didn’t think that Cleveland’s restrictions conflicted with state law despite seemingly clear evidence to the contrary. If it had been three dissenters instead of two, suddenly Cleveland’s gun owners would be in a position where a flip by one person could change everything.

A New York Times story on the decision notes that outgoing Attorney General Richard Cordray (a Democrat) supported the decision. It also includes:

Ohio bans some assault weapons, like sawed-off shotguns, but Cleveland banned a broader array. [emphasis Murdoc’s]

So, in which states is a “sawed-off assault shotgun” legal?

As a commenter on Volokh noted:

Glad they’re putting their most knowledgeable reporter on the story.

Yeah, but in New York you almost have to be criminal to be allowed to carry a gun.

Ohio Law Trumps Cleveland Restrictions

Ohio Supreme Court shoots down local gun control

The Ohio Supreme Court today dealt a fatal blow to local efforts to regulate firearms, concluding that a more permissive state law should trump restrictions on guns in cities.

In a 5-2 ruling, the state’s top court struck down Cleveland’s assault-weapons ban and registration requirement for handguns.

This good news comes via Instapundit, who writes:

Though the decision appears to turn on issues of Ohio law, I believe that the U.S. Supreme Court’s decisions in Heller and McDonald, by normalizing firearms ownership, have made a difference in how state courts approach these questions.


It’s Always Open Season on Fallow Deer in Ohio

Fallow Deer
Fallow Deer

A release on the Outdooor Wire notes that fallow deer have been observed in a couple of Ohio counties. Fallow deer are European natives but some are raised in the US.

The fallow deer are reportedly escapees from a propagator in Warren County. Both fallow bucks and does have been observed according to reports. This deer is not native to Ohio and there is no restricted season or bag limit. Hunters are encouraged to harvest them while out in the field. As with any non-native species it is important to quickly limit their populations to control spread of disease and competition with native Ohio wildlife.

Looks like gun season for white-tails opens November 30th, which means that the number of guys with guns on the lookout for deer with be through the roof. Hopefully, these fallows can be taken out.