Posts Tagged ‘UT’
No Carry Permit Needed in Wyoming
Murdoc’s been off the grid for a while but thought this subject deserved an update:
Wyoming Adopts “Constitutional Carry” of Firearms
An important step was taken yesterday in Wyoming toward restoring the constitutionally protected right of Americans to keep and bear arms, as that state became the second in less than a year to enact legislation affirming the right of its citizens to carry a concealed firearm without a special government-issued license. Following adoption in the state Senate, the vote of the House in the Wyoming legislature approved the bill by a vote of 48–8 several weeks ago, and Gov. Matt Mead (photo, left) signed it into law on March 3.
This is good news, though (predictably) not everyone agrees.
Meanwhile: Carrying gun without permit passes Utah committee
More Honors for the 1911?
State bird, state flower, state gun? Utah could be first to have one
The Utah House passed a measure to make the Browning M1911 semiautomatic the state gun in honor of Utahn John Browning. Critics question the wisdom of having a state gun.
Honestly, I don’t see this as a big deal either way. But, then, Murdoc doesn’t care about state flowers or state trees, or whatever, either.
Maybe some value if it drives the grabber crowd a bit more bonkers, I guess.
If Gun Owners Aren’t Violent Enough, Trick Them
You’d think this must be fake. Unfortunately, it isn’t:
The University of Utah has created a secret policy whereby its police officers are instructed in how to harass and intimidate law abiding gun owners by trumping up non-gun charges for perfectly lawful conduct.
Utah Officials Warn TV Viewers Not To Shoot Their Old TV Sets
Got an old TV? Don’t shoot it! That’s the word from federal wilderness officials. The people at the Bureau of Land Management in Utah’s west desert are worried some folks might want to use their old sets for target practice.
They warn it can cost up to $7,000 to clean up after a television set has been shot.
So I bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
And in the blessed name of Elvis well I just let it blast
’Til my TV lay in pieces there at my feet
And they busted me for disturbin’ the almighty peace
Judge said “What you got in your defense son ?”
“Fifty-seven channels and nothin’ on”
23 State Attorneys General To Attorney General Holder: “No Semi-Auto Ban”
Via the NRA-ILA:
On June 11, the top law enforcement officials of nearly half the states signed a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, expressing their opposition to reinstatement of the federal ban on semi-automatic firearms.
“We share the Obama Administration’s commitment to reducing illegal drugs and violent crime within the United States. We also share your deep concern about drug cartel violence in Mexico. However, we do not believe that restricting law-abiding Americans’ access to certain semi-automatic firearms will resolve any of these problems,” the letter said.
The letter notes congressional opposition to bringing back the ban, and calls for increasing enforcement of existing laws.
We encourage NRA members to let these state officials know we appreciate them standing up to the incessant clamor for gun control that is currently coming from anti-gun groups and their media allies.
The 23 state Attorneys General, in alphabetical order, by state, are:
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‘As many as eight or nine assailants’
Police say they are looking for as many as eight or nine assailants after a home invasion early Tuesday at a Midvale apartment that ended when one of the residents shot and killed a suspect.
Midvale police believe a female assailant was also shot, leaving a trail of blood outside the Springs of the Country Woods apartment complex at 1039 E. Watercress.
Four people, including two sisters, ages 14 and 22, were inside a third-floor apartment at the complex at about 1:30 a.m. when someone knocked at the door, Midvale police Sgt. John Salazar said.
When the 26-year-old uncle of the sisters opened the door, a group of up to 10 tried to force their way inside. In a struggle at the door, one assailant stabbed the uncle in the hand, Salazar said.
As the struggle continued inside, one assailant hit the 22-year-old woman, angering her 23-year-old boyfriend. He fought with another assailant, got hold of the man’s gun and fired about four shots inside, and possibly three outside, Salazar said.
Three of the shots inside struck a 31-year-old suspect, who died at the scene. He was armed with two knives and a handgun, Salazar said.
The cops noted that the handgun shots didn’t go through the apartment walls, though the story doesn’t say what sort of gun it was. Two additional guns, apparently belonging to the intruders, were found nearby.
Odd that so many would try to pull off a home invasion together. Seems like there’s probably more to this story.
Via Civilian Gun Self-Defense Blog
UPDATE: Another story on this incident has this detail:
The SWAT team blasted a garage where another suspect may have been hiding, but it was empty.
I was trying to figure out what they meant by “blasted” when I saw this picture:
I guess they really meant “blasted.” Sheesh.
UPDATE 2: And here are some more details:
The woman at the door asked for a man who did not live there, said Nikki Hulett, who also lives in the apartment complex.
Hiding behind the woman were several men. When the uncle saw the men, he tried to push the door shut. Neighbors said there were five other people in addition to the woman. Police believe there were between six to 10 people total. All of them were armed with either a knife or gun, said Midvale Police Sgt. John Salazar.
As the uncle tried pushing the door shut, one of the intruders reached inside and sliced the uncle’s hand, Salazar said.
After gaining entry, the intruders tried pushing all of the occupants into a back room. At one point, one of the intruders hit the older woman with the butt end of a gun and threw her around by her hair, Hulett said.
So this appears gang and/or drug related. Big surprise. They were looking to jack whoever used to live there. Or they just totally had the wrong apartment. Those types don’t always tend to be the brightest light bulbs on the porch.
The tenants have lived in that apartment for only three months, so I’m guessing the bad guys were after the previous resident at that address.
From a witness:
Two more suspects, one carrying a shotgun, were seen running in a different direction, she said. One of them was yelling, “Your dog is going to be OK,” but she didn’t know if he meant an animal or one of the other intruders.
Well, if he meant “an animal” he was probably right. If he meant “one of the other intruders,” not so much.
Not Exactly Under the Radar
Those watching things closely may have noticed a trend:
- Gun sales jump (Utah)
- Area gun sales spike (Alabama)
- Gun sales rise in Ohio, stay flat in Ross County (Ohio)
- Gun sales shoot up after Election Day (Colorado)
- Gun sales up, supplies down (Texas)
- S.D. gun shops see rise in sales (South Dakota)
- Gun, ammo sales increase in Churchill, Lyon counties (Nevada)
- Local gun sales increase since election (Arkansas)
- Gun sales shoot way up (Maine)
- Hawaii gun sales shooting up
- Fear Fuels Gun Sales Locally (West Virginia)
- Gun Sales Are Up Since Obama Election (Kentucky)
- Fear of ban increases gun sales (Mississippi)
- Finger on safety as gun sales shoot upward (Idaho)
- Gun sales rise as owners fear stricter controls (North Carolina)
- Gun Sales Boom Ahead of Obama Presidency (Tennessee)
- Gun Sales Booming Since Presidential Election (Nebraska)
- Gun sales, permits climb following election (North Dakota)
- Gun Sales Rise As Buyers Anticipate Political Change (Washington)
- Gun Sales Shoot Upward in Springfield (Missouri)
- Madison gun sales soar (Virginia)
- Some stores see surge in gun sales (Pennsylvania)
- Firearm sales surge following election (Wisconsin)
These are all from the past two or three days and aren’t simply re-runs of AP items in different papers. All of these have considerable, if not exclusively, local content. I could easily have included many, many more.
No doubt, the media coverage is feeding the flames a bit. As is the fact that hunting seasons are kicking off or underway in most states right now. But the trend is unmistakable.
It doesn’t seem to be localized to the bitter, clingy parts of the nation. Or to the red states.
Utah’s CCW
With some commentary
A rather even-handed treatment by the media. (Unless the skeptical wonder if the pro-carry guy’s technical problems were not accidental…)
I’m not up on the specifics of Utah concealed carry.
Is Utah’s program unfunded by general tax dollars?
Is Utah’s CCW permit near the tougher end of the range as far as qualifying and earning it goes?
No time to dial
Civilian Gun Self-Defense Blog notes an attack in South Salt Lake, Utah:
A man, who police have identified as 18-year-old, Daniel Glen Larson, allegedly kicked in the apartment door and shattered the door frame.
The woman immediately alerted her boyfriend, who was also in the apartment and began calling 911.
Just as she was dialing the numbers into her phone, Larson allegedly grabbed the woman and began attacking her.
She didn’t have time to dial three numbers let alone explain what was happening and wait for the authorities to arrive. The boyfriend, a CCW permit holder, shot the attacker and drove him off. He was later apprehended by police.
By Stephanie Simon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
I don’t know what else to title this post, so I’ll use Stephanie’s byline. No doubt she’s very proud of this piece.
I managed to miss it when it came out last week, but it’s full of, well, full of interesting points. I’m just going to note a few of them and comment quickly.
The piece’s title is “Gun dealer wants weapons on campus” and is about Eric Thompson, the online gun dealer whose shop was connected to sales to two major college campus shooters .
He had no reason not to sell a pistol to Seung-hui Cho, who walked from classroom to classroom at Virginia Tech last April, methodically firing 174 rounds. Nor did he have cause to question the sale of magazines and a holster to Steven Kazmierczak, who last month opened fire at Northern Illinois University.
It’s nice that Stephanie clears Mr. Thompson right up front. The fact that she doesn’t seem to have meant to clear him is confusing, but, then, most of Stephanie’s piece is fairly confusing.
Thompson’s firm, TGSCOM, runs more than 100 websites, each designed to appeal to a different segment of the gun market (and each calibrated to pop up high on Google searches). All told, he peddles 8,700 types of firearms, priced as low as $70 for a surplus rifle and as high as $8,800 for a shoulder-fired, semiautomatic, long-range rifle that takes jumbo .50-caliber bullets.
Ah, Mr. Thompson “peddles” guns. Now, I don’t know much about Stephanie, but I’m taking it for granted that she has had at least introductory education in writing. And, as such a skilled journalist, she knows that words matter. She knows, for instance, that “peddle” doesn’t exactly mean “sell,” but that it confers a decidedly negative connotation. That’s why she used “peddle” instead of “sell,” I’m confident in saying. Plus, Stephanie gets extra credit points for describing a rifle as a “shoulder-fired, semiautomatic, long-range rifle” and a bonus gold star for calling the .50 caliber bullets “jumbo.” They’re apparently larger than normal .50 caliber rounds.
Gun control advocates condemn online transactions as open to fraud, because convicted criminals can browse online, then pay someone with a clean record to place the order and pick up the firearm.
Shocking. Some people break the law when shopping online? Next thing you know, someone may buy beer or cigarettes at 7-11 for someone under age. Hopefully Stephanie’s next piece will be written to shed light on this dastardly practice.
He shrugs off such unfortunate transactions as part of doing business.
“I’m sure Wal-Mart has sold more weapons to killers than I have,” he says.
She not only doesn’t address his point, she doesn’t even start a new paragraph. Just hurry on to something else and hope that no one noticed that he’s undoubtedly right and that her ever-so-carefully constructed case against him just fell apart.
He argues too that allowing guns on campus could deter future shootings.
That perspective has caught on widely since the carnage at Virginia Tech. Most states long ago declared schools gun-free zones; only Utah allows concealed weapons at all public colleges.
And Stephanie then goes on to detail the long and bloody history of the many large-scale shootings at public colleges in Utah.
Just kidding.
She probably doesn’t want to mention the best-known mass shooting in Utah, in fact, because it happened at a shopping mall. You know, one of those so-called “gun-free zones” like at public colleges in states other than Utah. Whoops. So she just quotes Paul Helmke instead.
He also asks whether we can trust states to make sure that permit-holders are skilled shooters with solid safety training. In Florida, a Sun-Sentinel investigation found that more than 1,400 felons, including killers and child molesters, had been granted concealed-carry permits.
“The bottom-line problem is: We make it too easy in this country for dangerous people to buy guns,” Helmke says.
Whoops! Even when dodging uncomfortable facts that blow your position to smithereens, you’re in for a smithereen or two if you take Paul Helmke at face value. Those 1400 “felons” weren’t convicted, therefore weren’t actually felons, and so weren’t barred from getting their CCW permits. Their convictions were “withheld” by the courts. Simple as that. Helmke says that they were felons and Stephanie prints it, but don’t buy what they’re peddling.
Classic rock plays softly in Thompson’s call center as Alex Wallin sells guns.
He chats with a customer about night sights. He tells another caller the going price for an AK-47 assault rifle: $479.53.
What a deal! An AK-47 assault rifle for under $500. But a quick check shows that they’re not AK-47 assault rifles but semi-automatic AK-47 clones. We’ll give Stephanie a pass on not knowing the difference this time. After all, both AK-47s and semi-auto clones are very scary looking. Besides, she’s got gumption, and we like that.
For instance, she didn’t let the fact that she doesn’t know the difference between AK-47 assault rifles and semi-auto clones stop her from writing a piece in the LA Times about guns. Stephanie is unafraid of putting it out on the line. In fact, it seems like the only thing Stephanie is afraid of are scary-looking guns. Well, those and fact-checkers.
Other than a general disregard for logic or the facts, though, Stephanie’s piece was an informative one.
Guns in Parking Lots
Utah: Committee OKs bill to allow guns to be kept in private cars
Parking-lot owners would be unable to have policies against guns in vehicles under a bill passed by a Senate committee Tuesday.
“Some people have characterized this as gun versus property rights,” said Sen. Mark Madsen, R-Eagle Mountain. “Really, though, it’s a life right versus a property right. A balance between life and property. When you put appropriate issues on the scales, you find that life does weigh heavier than property.”
The bill does not apply to school grounds, state and local government entities or religious organizations. It requires that the person with the gun be legally allowed to possess and transport the gun, that the vehicle be locked or that the gun is in a locked container and that the gun is not in plain view. The bill also has exceptions for secured parking lots.
Via GunPro.
Dawn finally comes: I’m still alive
In Popular Mechanics: How to Survive in the Wild for 72 Hours: I’ll Try Anything
It starts
Night is falling, and we’re lost. Somewhere in the canyon lands of southern Utah, I’m trudging across a seemingly endless sagebrush plain, and the twilight gloom is thick. My group of 14 hikers has been on the trail for 5 hours, and our delight at the majesty of the red rock landscape has long since given way to grumbling about hunger and sore feet. As the first stars start to twinkle, the question arises, “Okay, now what?”
Though not strictly a gun-related topic, I think that wilderness survival is a subject that most gun owning readers have at least a passing interest in. Remember, the term “wilderness” includes the wild rural areas of Utah, but it also includes the woods where you hunt deer, urban sprawl where the predators are more dangerous than those in rural Utah, and just about anywhere after the shit hits the fan.
Having a few things ready can help. Having a plan is crucial. Having enough basic knowledge to ad lib when necessary is key.
I am going to add a ‘Survival’ category to GunPundit. Photo by Ian Parker.

