‘Virginia lawmakers want to have guns everywhere’

The title of this post is the subtitle of an editorial in the Washington Post called “The Shot-and-a-Beer Crowd” about Virginia

bills to make it easier to carry concealed weapons in cars, bars and restaurants…

In its wisdom, the legislature has decided that citizens will benefit from a proliferation of hidden weapons — here, there and everywhere.

A bit of leap, there, guys. But more of the usual. Since someone is against some parts of gun control, they obviously want “everyone” to have guns “everywhere.”

Here’s what they say about the effort to repeal the ban on concealed carry in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol:

The measure would make it a misdemeanor for the carrier of a hidden gun to drink while in a restaurant or bar, but in the real world, who would know? Sen. Emmett W. Hanger Jr. (R-Augusta), the bill’s sponsor, argued that holders of concealed-carry permits have been screened and therefore can be trusted. But last we checked, the screening does not verify that they are all nonconfrontational when drinking, and it’s chilling to think of what may happen if Mr. Hanger’s confidence is misplaced.

This is a hilarious line of reasoning:

  1. It would be illegal to drink while carrying, but carriers can’t be trusted not to drink.
  2. Since they’ll drink, we had better hope they’re non-confrontational when they do it.

Trained and licensed concealed carriers with legal weapons can’t be trusted not to drink while packing, but we should put our faith in untrained and unlicensed people to not carry illegal weapons. The fact that this is from the editors of the Washington Post in the District of Columbia, not exactly gun crime-free despite a total ban on gun ownership, simply adds to the irony.

I think the WaPo’s confidence in gun control is misplaced.

CCW Lists in Virginia

Who should get to see the list of Virginians with permits to carry a concealed gun?

Last year Christian Trejbal and the Roanoke Times took it upon themselves to publish a list of all the state’s concealed carry permit holders because they felt it was the right thing to do. Then the list was pulled the next day out of “sense of caution and concern for the public.”

Now, legislation is moving in Virginia to remove access to state lists but maintain local lists available through the local courts.

“Every person who applies for a concealed carry permit understands that their application is a matter of public record,” says Senator Roscoe Reynolds.

Senator Reynolds says Virginians can carry their guns openly without getting a permit if privacy is so important to them.

Right. If you feel the need the carry a gun for safety but want to maintain your personal privacy, just carry openly. Good call, Senator Reynolds. The article doesn’t say, but he’s a Democrat.

Like you didn’t know that from what he said.

Virginia Students Push for Concealed Guns on Campus

From WJLA News 7 in Virginia:

College students across Virginia are heading to Richmond this weekend to lobbying for two bills allowing concealed weapons on campus.

“There was a lotta talk after Tech that a lot of different issues would have to be dealt with, and this is one we felt needed to be addressed,” explained George Mason University student Andrew Dysart.

Dysart heads the group Students for Concealed Carry on Campus. They are against an administrative ban at GMU and other state schools that forbids anyone to carry a gun on campus, even though Virginia law allows citizens to have guns with a permit.

Dysart says the tragedy at Virginia Tech and the shootings last month in Colorado underscore the need for law-abiding citizens to protect themselves.

Then there’s this (Emphasis Murdoc’s):

“There’s a reason why guns aren’t allowed,” stated Stephanie Laspada. “I think that increases chance for something to happen like at VA Tech.”

Maybe I’m missing something here? Guns aren’t allowed on VA Tech, right? And concealed carry isn’t allowed on VA Tech, right? And VA Tech happened on VA Tech, right?

So I guess I’m not sure how keeping things like they were/are at VA Tech is going to help prevent more VA Techs. I think that either Murdoc or Stephanie is confused, and I’m pretty sure I know which one it is.

For the kids

Congress OKs Va Tech-inspired gun bill

No, not a law allowing legal gun owners from carrying their guns in free fire gun free zones, but a law

that would more easily flag prospective gun buyers who have documented mental health problems.

See Wizbang for more.

Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) opposed the measure.

His chief concern, he said, was that it did not pay for successful appeals by veterans or other people who say they are wrongly barred from buying a gun.

Just before midnight Tuesday, Coburn and the Democratic supporters of the bill struck a deal: The government would pay for the cost of appeals by gun owners and prospective buyers who argue successfully in court that they were wrongly deemed unqualified for mental health reasons.

The compromise would require that incorrect records — such as expunged mental health rulings that once disqualified a prospective gun buyer but no longer do — be removed from system within 30 days.

That, at least, seems to make a fair amount of sense.

UPDATE: David Hardy also comments.